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seaydog Senior Member

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| Posted: 18 January 2007 at 12:54pm | IP Logged
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Energy Manias
Just added institutionaladvisors at my blog
Edited by seaydog on 18 January 2007 at 12:55pm
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ahvincent Senior Member


Joined: 23 May 2006 Location: Selangor Posts: 2547
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| Posted: 18 January 2007 at 9:54am | IP Logged
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I say man....how do you think the government is going to pay for sending a tourist into space or build a new sporting complex in London or sponsor a new F1 car racing team?
Brother, someone has to pay for it. In pure economic terms petrol can be termed as a "superior" product i.e. no matter how expensive you also have to buy (maybe a bit less, or you buy less of something else but you still have to buy). Hahaha don't rob you at the browser, rob you where ah?? Legal highway robbery.
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arifin34 Senior Member


Joined: 24 June 2005 Location: Perak Posts: 188
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Dear Johnny,
I have the same view as you.... and I have said so some time back in a right timing special article:
http://arifin-rts.tripod.com/feedbackTheEDGE-13.htm,
and in a series of commentaries:
http://arifin-mysay.tripod.com/feedbackTheEDGE-14.htm and http://arifin-mysay.tripod.com/feedbackTheEDGE-16.htm
Hope we are both wrong... or else some more hardship shall befall on us all!
Why does the Govt refused the call of the people-in-the-streets to revise the petrol price at the pumps despite crude oil prices falling to near US$50 a barrel now? Give it a thought.... to me I presume the Govt is not convinced that global oil prices can't resume the 'stalled high levels'!
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johndoe05 Authorized Member


Joined: 10 June 2005 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 97
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| Posted: 16 January 2007 at 9:55pm | IP Logged
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I do not know any news or any rumours about the crude oil, production cuts, etc. but I know that the crude oil will always be at high and will surpass USD60 per barrel by year end and all the way up to USD100 per barrel in 3 years time. You must always remember crude oil is scarce commodity and the number population growing and products derived from petroleum are increasing.
Adios!!
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nikzafri Senior Member


Joined: 15 June 2005 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 1339
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| Posted: 14 January 2007 at 4:41pm | IP Logged
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Maann..that looks serious!
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arifin34 Senior Member


Joined: 24 June 2005 Location: Perak Posts: 188
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| Posted: 14 January 2007 at 4:31pm | IP Logged
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Nik & others....
Take a good look at this advert from Daytradingcoach.com:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The next oil spike has officially begun!
Dear Reader:
I hate to tell you this, but somebody has to.
You've been duped!
That's right. Not only have you been duped . . . but you have also been played for a sucker.
That's because today's price of gasoline is nothing but a mirage. A temporary sedative that's now allowing OPEC to do exactly what they've always done—manipulate the price at the expense of their number-one customer . . . and their number-one enemy!
It's no secret that OPEC nations are nothing more than a who's who of anti-Western forces.
And now that the price of oil has dropped more than 25% in the past 21 weeks, they're aligning their forces once again.
The first order of business: cut production . . . and cut it fast!
While consumers happily pay $2.20 at the pump, OPEC has already lit the fuse on the powder keg.
Take a look . . .
- Friday, September 29, 2006—Venezuela announced it will reduce oil output by 50,000 barrels a day, and Nigeria announced a 5% cut in its oil exports.
- Sunday, October 1, 2006—Iran tells the world that it will support any effort by OPEC members to solidify the oil market and "return prices to acceptable and logical levels."
- Tuesday, October 3, 2006—OPEC's president calls on OPEC countries to make deeper output cuts.
- Wednesday, October 4, 2006—Kuwait announces that it's considering following Venezuela and Nigeria in cutting production, and Saudi Arabia reveals that it would "work with OPEC to bring oil prices to a 'reasonable level.'"
- Thursday, October 5, 2006—OPEC's president announces that the group is now considering an emergency meeting to discuss the possibility of cutting output. The same day, Saudi Arabia agrees to lower production by 300,000 barrels per day in order to help "prop up prices."
- Wednesday, October 11, 2006—OPEC agrees to trim global oil production by 1 million barrels a day to boost prices.
- Friday, October 13, 2006—Venezuela's oil minister announces that OPEC's cut of 1 million barrels a day will begin in about six weeks.
- Wednesday, October 25, 2006—Oil prices leap nearly two dollars higher after OPEC members, including Iran and Saudi Arabia, lead in enforcing output cuts.
Oil prices are going right back up to where they were this past spring. OPEC will see to that!
And when they do, you're going to see yet another example of select alternative fuel stocks soaring in the wake of OPEC's output cuts.
You see, those who cashed out of many of these stocks before the correction . . . with huge gains . . . are quietly moving their millions right back to where they were before the price of oil plummeted.
Only this time, the stakes have been raised. And when it comes to ethanol, the big money's all going to the same place—ethanol logistics!
In other words, the companies that can move and control the flow of ethanol stand to pull in the lion's share of ethanol profits.
Because, let's face it, you can make all the ethanol you want. But if you can't move it, you can't sell it.
And according to insiders, all those smaller ethanol companies that so many have been buying into are soon going to be unable to move their ethanol without breaking the bank.
Why?
Because one company is about to leverage its massive economies of scale to lower its cost of transportation to a level where hardly any other ethanol producer will be able to compete.
The end result will be massive logistical consolidations and increased market share.
All because management found a way to . . .
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These guys have the inside track, the connections and the expertise not only to run second to ADM's ethanol business—but actually to surpass it within as little as five years.
This, as well as a detailed outline that will show you specifically how this company intends to take the lead in ethanol logistics . . . and how much money it will add to the bottom line in the first year . . . can be found in your free report, Ethanol Giant.
You can get a copy without any obligation whatsoever right here: Ethanol Giant
On top of that, I'll throw in a complimentary charter subscription to Green Chip Review, a new daily publication focused solely on the incredible profits in the entire renewable energy sector.
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And we've got the portfolio to prove it!
In fact, even after the beating the market has taken over the past few months, our portfolio is still up over 60%!
But I'll save the chest-pounding for later.
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Regards,
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My first comment: I'm convinced the world has already factored in energy prices at US$60 a barrel.... beyond that cannot be sustainable, likewise closer to US$50 don't jive well with the supply-demand picture at all!
Secondly, the ethanol fuel story is now a big thing in the West.... and even the 6 Sisters may have to live with it!
__________________ ARIFIN ABDUL LATIF
State Director of Agriculture, Ipoh | Senior Consultant, ArifinLatif Consulting.
Freelance Consultant on Forecasting Econs/Stock Market Trends; ICT; PVP 0166094170
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nikzafri Senior Member


Joined: 15 June 2005 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 1339
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arifin34 wrote:
| Yo there! Don't underestimate the wonderful nipah fruit... lest we forget it's that particular fruit that has saved someone drifted in the Indian Ocean for a week or so.... during that dreadful tsunami! And our great, great grandparents utilised the nipah fruit since the beginning of time (at least in this part of the world!).... I think the other tree that can be tapped is the sago palm. The Brasilians used sugar as the feedstock cos they have surplus of it. We should use CPO? I dunno, for as long as CPO prices trended upwards who wants to sacrifice the ffb for biodiesel? Just a thought... |
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Brother Ariffin, dublinohio and myself are not underestimating the 'nipah'. Our concern is something else - also quoting yours "our great granparents utilised the nipah fruit since the beginning of time" - which brings me to the following issue :
nikzafri wrote:
| I'm also watching this development seriously due to the fact that the source may have been taken from 'nipah'. And the 'nira' of the 'nipah' (can somebody translate these?) - have been; for years; currently linked to the villagers activity for making 'gula melaka', 'syrup', 'vinegar', 'preservatives' etc.
I need to understand how would this development not affecting the villagers economically. Although I understand that this could be an alternative source of income and more infrastructure may come in place as a result of plants being built, but my hopes would be that this conventional activity would somehow be maintained. |
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I also did mentioned about the previous biodiesel's problems which have been linked to 'unconstant supply', 'processing cost' including some parts for automobile may need to be turned into 'plastic'. Well, since this is not an oil field we're talking about but plantation, then probably in the long run, there could be similar productivity problems (inability to cope up with demand) may appear if fast action not taken (I'm currently doing some 'homework' on this matter)
My quick survey and observation to the new nipah ethanol plant have shown that the technology esp. plants/equipments/machinery have been 'borrowed' from foreign countries which I do hope that there will be some 'transfer of technology' going on.
Of course, am not against it but hopefully some 'hiccups' can be resolved or minimized.
Edited by nikzafri on 12 January 2007 at 12:59pm
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johndoe05 Authorized Member


Joined: 10 June 2005 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 97
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| Posted: 10 January 2007 at 11:19pm | IP Logged
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Crude oil fall to USD55 per barrel.
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johndoe05 Authorized Member


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arifin34 wrote:
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Yo there!
Don't underestimate the wonderful nipah fruit... lest we forget it's that particular fruit that has saved someone drifted in the Indian Ocean for a week or so.... during that dreadful tsunami!
And our great, great grandparents utilised the nipah fruit since the beginning of time (at least in this part of the world!).... I think the other tree that can be tapped is the sago palm. The Brasilians used sugar as the feedstock cos they have surplus of it. We should use CPO? I dunno, for as long as CPO prices trended upwards who wants to sacrifice the ffb for biodiesel? Just a thought...
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well, m'sia is world's largest exporter for palm oil. Using part of it as biodiesel shouldn't be a problem.
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arifin34 Senior Member


Joined: 24 June 2005 Location: Perak Posts: 188
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| Posted: 08 January 2007 at 9:49pm | IP Logged
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Yo there!
Don't underestimate the wonderful nipah fruit... lest we forget it's that particular fruit that has saved someone drifted in the Indian Ocean for a week or so.... during that dreadful tsunami!
And our great, great grandparents utilised the nipah fruit since the beginning of time (at least in this part of the world!).... I think the other tree that can be tapped is the sago palm. The Brasilians used sugar as the feedstock cos they have surplus of it. We should use CPO? I dunno, for as long as CPO prices trended upwards who wants to sacrifice the ffb for biodiesel? Just a thought...
Edited by arifin34 on 08 January 2007 at 9:51pm
__________________ ARIFIN ABDUL LATIF
State Director of Agriculture, Ipoh | Senior Consultant, ArifinLatif Consulting.
Freelance Consultant on Forecasting Econs/Stock Market Trends; ICT; PVP 0166094170
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