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Posted: 15 March 2008 at 8:35pm | IP Logged Quote Melbournian
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hi guys n girls....

my forecast of crude oil hitting usd100/barrel has materialised... in fact i hv painted a worst case scenario of usd124 some time back! (in the edge commentary) and i'm sticking to that forecast, presumably with iran-us conflict as the precursor.

maybe those who hv scorned at me hv second thoughts now.

USD124 per bbl by WHEN ?

Presumably the last time you predicted USD100 there was a time line attached ?  Time is of essence in forecasting inflation trend.

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arifin34 wrote:

hi guys n girls....

my forecast of crude oil hitting usd100/barrel has materialised... in fact i hv painted a worst case scenario of usd124 some time back! (in the edge commentary) and i'm sticking to that forecast, presumably with iran-us conflict as the precursor.

maybe those who hv scorned at me hv second thoughts now.

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Posted: 06 January 2008 at 1:19am | IP Logged Quote arifin34
its just a matter of time! that's the sad case we have to shoulder the burden.... as it is now some experts are thinking of rm3 per litre!!!!!! (at the pumps) 

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If the oil price keep going up, will this means that the civilian will have to pay a higher price in petrol?... just curious what will happen next....

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Posted: 04 January 2008 at 10:22pm | IP Logged Quote arifin34

hi guys n girls....

my forecast of crude oil hitting usd100/barrel has materialised... in fact i hv painted a worst case scenario of usd124 some time back! (in the edge commentary) and i'm sticking to that forecast, presumably with iran-us conflict as the precursor.

maybe those who hv scorned at me hv second thoughts now.



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This is something a bit different than any other analysis. It's a comparison of crude Oil Price Trends Across 10 Currencies.

The good thing about this perspective is referring to my posts on forecasting stock and economic market trends on how to link crude oil price rising & subprime mortgage problems in the US affecting the global economy via currency exchange. Keyword Ripple Effect and Credit Crunch. This analysis will also benefit those involve in FOREX trading to trade more carefully - it helps in justifications process to their clients as well.

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Oil in Malaysia belongs to all Malaysians and not the privilege few...so if gorman stop the subsidy, can we also stop the taxes?

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arifin34 wrote:

Hello there.... all oil barons....

I've been in hibernation for quite some time... alas can't find time to join in the discussions.... even writing commentaries for The Edge has to taken the back seat. Just like to remind you all that what we are witnessing now is something which I have been saying all along in my articles.... remember the Goldman Sachs story some time back, written by Arjun Murti.

I have been forecasting oil for USD80 all along, before moving on to around USD125 - forget in which article. My main premise was an American-Iran conflict going full scale. Well I was vilified by many then. If only we have oil stocks (I mean really oil stocks!) on Bursa then I might be laughing my way to the bank!

All the best gang!

'orang minyak' bertapa! (still)

It is risky business and very capital intensive..My customers are in oil and gas and I am very happy for them.Let us bergotong royong and find more oil and get it out quickly.

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Posted: 09 November 2007 at 7:25pm | IP Logged Quote arifin34

Hello there.... all oil barons....

I've been in hibernation for quite some time... alas can't find time to join in the discussions.... even writing commentaries for The Edge has to taken the back seat. Just like to remind you all that what we are witnessing now is something which I have been saying all along in my articles.... remember the Goldman Sachs story some time back, written by Arjun Murti.

I have been forecasting oil for USD80 all along, before moving on to around USD125 - forget in which article. My main premise was an American-Iran conflict going full scale. Well I was vilified by many then. If only we have oil stocks (I mean really oil stocks!) on Bursa then I might be laughing my way to the bank!

All the best gang!

'orang minyak' bertapa! (still)



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Posted: 20 October 2007 at 5:20pm | IP Logged Quote nikzafri
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Hello again

I don't have to inform everyone here that the crude oil per barrel have reached almost USD90 per metric tonne as result of possible shaky situation in Turki vs Kurdish. (well, who started 'the war-culture' on the first place?)

Although I'm well aware that many have voiced their views on this never-ending issue, I just need to refresh everyone and myself about (some of) the possible effects if the oil price keep rising.

The crude oil price has been influenced by various reasons but it is also about demand and supply as well. The various reasons could be from Middle East crisis, used up (dried - no more oil) places of extraction, natural disasters etc.

In most cases, the manufacturing sector would be the one that may possibly be feeling the effects first. The rise of crude oil price will trigger the rise of raw materials cost (in the end, this raise could possibly be absorbed into our purchasing price) which will ultimately lead to slow crippling of the economy as a result of possible inflation.

So, how about alternative source of energy? Of course much have been said about this matter as well especially in our other thread on 'sustainable development' themed 'renewable energy', 'green buildings' etc.

Will there be more 'business opportunists' who may try to make so much money out of the alternative source of energy once realizing that there will be high demand from consumers?

Of course, many nations may disagree with me and claimed that they have done their bit. (small bit and R & D here and there?) and that our energy is claimed to be enough to cater us till 2030 (? - really?) How about the effectiveness of the 'so-called' energy conservation programs?

As I speak, the oil price have sharply hiking, more 'energy hungry' nations are demanding for more energy, the dollar is weakening, offshore bargaining is happening, speculative buying of oil futures and most definitely welcoming more and more market speculators as a result of foreign investors procurement.

Just dropping by to share the thoughts that crossed my mind just now.

Now this is what I call 'news'. (well..at least someone agrees)

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The Star - Business - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007

Consequences of high oil price

AS a teenager I read a novel set in the Middle East where a character says: “The kingdom of heaven runs on righteousness, the kingdoms of the earth run on oil.” Well, I don’t know much about the kingdom of heaven but the global economy runs on oil and lots of it. 

While I would not want to over-emphasise the importance of oil in the world today, it does pervade every facet of our lives. From crude oil, which is the stuff that is extracted from oil wells on land or sea, comes various products such as petroleum (primarily for transportation), diesel, fuel oils, petrochemicals (plastics) and liquefied petroleum gas (for white goods, transportation and cooking). 

The world is addicted to the stuff, despite there being alternative sources of energy such as nuclear fuel and biofuel. But these energy sources come with a price. For nuclear energy, there must be the technological know-how and even with the knowledge, there is the political price to be paid. 

For biofuel, it is only now becoming economical to process it as an energy source since the crude oil price is high. However, it’s not the most environment-friendly source and the land that is used for growing these fuel sources can be used for food crops. 

So it’s back to the black viscous stuff. Because it’s not a renewable energy source and we are using it like there is no tomorrow, the price of crude has risen to “stratospheric levels”, according to a foreign business weekly and this was when oil was still in the US$70 to US$75 range. 

It surpassed that long ago and light sweet crude for November delivery settled at US$89.47 a barrel on Thursday at the New York Mercantile Exchange (Nymex) while the London Brent settled at US$84.60 a barrel for December delivery. In after hours electronic trading, it traded as high as US$90.02 at the Nymex. 

What are the consequences of high crude oil prices? According to a Bloomberg report yesterday, this may stunt Asia’s growth and stoke inflation. It said countries that operated on oil subsidy schemes such as India, Indonesia and Malaysia were going to face increasing pressure to pass on these higher costs. (cont..after the next quote) 

nikzafri wrote:
As an avid reader and also monitoring this issue closely, somehow I feel a bit confused only by reading these 3 news.
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The Star Business - 22 September, 2007

Tough decision on proposal to hike gas price

PETALING JAYA: A cabinet committee chaired by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi will on Monday decide on Petroliam Nasional Bhd's (Petronas) proposal to raise gas prices.  Likewise in the US, the Federal Open Market Committee had its meeting on Tuesday to set the interest rate trend. 

A party broke out on the Wall Street after the US Federal Reserve announced an interest rate cut. The Dow Jones Industrial Average soared over 3%, which in turn, fuelled a share price rally worldwide. Everyone was happy.   But critics say slashing interest rates will only inflate the bubble in the US financial markets by making money easily available for portfolio investments. It isn't a panacea.  

Will the cabinet committee be as accomodating as the US Federal Reserve, given that nobody likes price hikes, except when it comes to share prices?  Some analysts reckon the meeting would be a non-event, as the authorities may postpone the decision for various reasons.  Many described this as a tough decision and a “politically-sensitive issue.”  Some argued against the reason for rocking the boat since Petronas is making record earnings on surging crude oil prices that have hit above US$80 per barrel.  Having enjoyed a pre-tax profit margin of 42%, the national oil company can pretty well afford the subsidy. 

Last year, Petronas forked out RM15bil to subsidise natural gas. It has paid nearly RM50bil since 1997 in gas subsidies.   The RM50bil is not chicken feed, but can such a huge sum be put to better use by removing the subsidy?  

Malaysia has the world's biggest rubber glove manufacturing industry, which is flourishing, thanks to subsidised gas, among other factors.   The gas price subsidy allows glove makers to generate heat at a much lower cost compared with using fuels such as electricity or coal, whose prices have risen substantially.   Cheap gas is also a blessing to the food and beverage business, an important segment in the tourism industry.   Both industries earn good foreign income and create jobs. In a way, the gas subsidy is powering economic growth.  

But, on the flip side, cheap gas has also attracted low-end energy-intensive industries to Malaysia. And this has raised concerns about over-consumption.  Worse still, there are no incentives for energy conservation, even as the supply of fossil fuel is depleting rapidly.   It's a matter of time when Malaysia becomes a net importer of oil and gas, although this is unlikely to happen at least in the next two decades.   But will it be too late to develop a mechanism that would provide subsidy to those who deserve it?  

Perhaps this is a question that the cabinet committee and the rakyat  should mull over.  

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The Business Times -
Miti gathering feedback on proposed gas subsidy cut - October 5 2007

THE Ministry of International Trade and Industry (Miti) is gathering feedback from various industries on the proposed cut in subsidy for natural gas. Datuk Seri Rafidah Aziz said the ministry is evaluating feedback from the industries before briefing the Cabinet committee chaired by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi on the matter.She said the committee will look at how much of the rising global gas prices the Government can take on, and how much to pass on to industries and consumers.

"The balance must be as right as possible. It won't be perfect, but the Government would make it as right as possible for everybody," she told a news conference after officiating Schoeffel Flagship Store in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.

Last month, national oil corporation Petronas said it was pushing for an increase in gas prices as it has been subsidising nearly RM50 billion in the last 10 years for gas.The heavily subsidised gas price in the domestic market is about 70 per cent lower than the market price.Rafidah said the industries themselves are prepared for the possibility of the rollback of gas subsidies.They have been forewarned that they must be prepared for realistic domestic gas prices and to undertake necessary changes in their operations to get the most efficient use of gas.She said the industry is aware that the Government cannot be expected to subsidise the energy perpetually and without limit.

"This is what the Government is working towards, how much of the cost should the industry bear, and how much can the Government subsidise," she said. "It is time we have to be realistic." - By Hamisah Hamid

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The Star Business - 10/10/2007

FMM denies manufacturers had received RM50b subsidy for gas

KUALA LUMPUR: The Federation of Malaysian Manufacturers (FMM) denied on Wednesday that the manufacturing sector has received RM50bil in subsidies for natural gas over the past ten years.   This is in response to a recent news report that implied that the manufacturing sector enjoyed the lion's share of the subsidies.  FMM said in a statement that the majority of the subsidies are enjoyed by the power generation sector, which is the largest consumer of natural gas in the country.  FMM said that the manufacturing sector is a small domestic consumer of natural gas.  

"In recent years, natural gas is the preferred energy source in the manufacturing sector primarily because it is the most efficient for direct heating. Sectors considered as heavy users of natural gas are ceramics, oleo chemicals, glass, petrochemicals, rubber gloves and iron and steel.  

"However, not all manufacturers have access to natural gas because the reticulation network is limited to those near the main pipeline along the coast or near power plants in the Peninsular, " said the statement. 

It said that the conversion to use natural gas requires investment of millions of ringgit in equipment and infrastructure and once converted, a factory cannot switch back easily to use other fuels.  The statement said that manufacturing sector only uses 11.6% of natural gas consumed domestically and that as of March 2007 only 637 manufacturers are customers of Gas Malaysia Sdn Bhd.

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What I am thinking right now, which party enjoyed the RM50 billion?

 

Consequences of high oil price - cont 

With prices this high, who can blame the government if it were to cut the oil subsidy this year even though the Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister Datuk Shafie Apdal had recently reiterated the government’s promise not to do so this year? 

At the current subsidy level, the price of petrol at the pump is 70% lower than the market price and Petroliam Nasional Bhd (Petronas) also sells subsidised gas to various sectors of the domestic economy at RM6.40 per million British thermal units. The state oil company constantly reminds us that it has subsidised the economy and the lifestyle of Malaysians to the tune of RM50bil in the past 10 years and counting. 

What, I wonder, will happen if prices near or top US$100 a barrel before year's end? There is that possibility since the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries has forecast consumption would be up in the final three months of the year. There is also continuing geopolitical tensions in oil-producing regions. Will the government renege on its promise not to cut the subsidy then? 



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