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nikzafri Senior Member


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Hi Rita, thanks for your valuable inputs. I know most definitely Gavin would take your suggestions into account.
Don't worry about the Flyback Event - it will be clearly mentioned in the main page of GMN. And if I know Gavin, he will definitely send you enough/adequate information in advance so that you'll be well-prepared.
(can't be long..cos need to do some inspection..inspection..inspection...got to do reports..reports..reports...wow...what a 'crazy' job)
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RitaHG Authorized Member


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Brigitte, Gavin ...... I don't mean to put anyone in a spot. Nik mentioned the event and I am going to kick myself if it happened during my trip back and I missed it! 
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Gavin,
Do you want to answer that one? What happened to the Flyback Event....
Brigitte
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RitaHG Authorized Member


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This is an interesting idea, a step forward for the forum. I support it and would like to suggest forming an initial club, call it HQ (borrowing Nik's term here) or the likes instead of setting-up several destination clubs at one go. This way, common by-laws, constitution, mission statement, rules, etc. are established at the onset and fine-tuned to accommodate local chapters later.
My husband and I are joint-member of a US Sailing Association which was formed out of an online forum. Similar to GMN being set-up for Malaysians worldwide, the forum was set-up to share knowledge and information among sailing enthusiasts throughtout the US. It continues to do so successfully, with forums branching out under boating categories now. The Club co-exists with the forum but has extended objectives, not unlike those mentioned by Nik. They include the promotion of shared interests, activities that encourage fellowship among members, cooperation with other organizations and coordination of events that generate value in kind for members. Some of the benefits we have enjoyed are networking opportunities, travel support even when we are not cruising on waters, exclusive privileges of sorts, shopping discounts and most important of all - a group of really good friends to share real experiences with.
Having said all that, our nay-sayers' concerns are founded. Member interest and commitment are requirements for a club to be successful.
By the way, when was the GMN Fly Back Event??
Edited by RitaHG on 15 May 2007 at 8:37pm
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howzagrace Senior Member

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Nik and Gavin, u can also include me in as a wet blanket. I do not like the idea of a club. I think that with the formation of any club, personalities will come into play and more often than not, one get bogged down with social politics. A club will need structure and beauracracy and this may lead to disputes and all kinds of unnecessary disagreements. I am not saying it will happen but i have seen it happening in many clubs which is not exactly healthy.
I like the anonymity of being just another forum member. I believe that this forum has assisted many msians without any necessity of forming a club. It is informal, relaxed , within our own control and keeping our privacy intact. If we feel that we can render help we will do so without the pressure of a formal structure of a club. Personally i believe that this forum has acted as a platform for many to obtain the relevent info and will continue to do so...
Just my humble opinion, thats all.
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Lilian,
that is exactly how i feel about this proposal. very well said.
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nikzafri Senior Member


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Lilian, Whitenite & Flick. I'm not involved directly in the formation of this club. Like you; I'm simply giving my views to Gavin's idea that was triggered 2 years back where I was one of the great supporters.
Furthermore, we're just at the discussion stage herein this thread.
Let's give it a little bit more time.
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lilianGM Senior Member


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whitenite wrote:
nikzafri wrote:
As I have said earlier, the views voiced in a club would be very much official according to the law.
I'm neither implying that views voiced herein wouldn't get much attention nor forum members not registered as club members would be 'cast aside' (I think it's rather an option) but when we're registered, it would likely to be getting more attention.
Other than that - let's say for example, in emergency situations e.g. catastrophes etc, there is an official place (besides than the Embassy, UN shelters etc.) where news can be spread much more effectively via other media when access to the internet is not possible. I'm also very sure, it's not for GMN forumers/club members alone but for all Malaysians abroad and this club can act like support relief centres.
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Nik, personally, from the heart, I appreciate yr views & efforts in this.
But I daresay I voice the view of many a forumer, silent thus far, in saying this - we're not terribly interested in getting more attention, be it from the media or the govt.
Like flick, I apologise for being a wet blanket, I applaud Gavin's idea & effort, and your tireless support, but I reckon the continued silence from the other forumers to the proposal must be a deafening response ...
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Nik and Gavin, u can also include me in as a wet blanket. I do not like the idea of a club. I think that with the formation of any club, personalities will come into play and more often than not, one get bogged down with social politics. A club will need structure and beauracracy and this may lead to disputes and all kinds of unnecessary disagreements. I am not saying it will happen but i have seen it happening in many clubs which is not exactly healthy.
I like the anonymity of being just another forum member. I believe that this forum has assisted many msians without any necessity of forming a club. It is informal, relaxed , within our own control and keeping our privacy intact. If we feel that we can render help we will do so without the pressure of a formal structure of a club. Personally i believe that this forum has acted as a platform for many to obtain the relevent info and will continue to do so...
Just my humble opinion, thats all.
cheers
Lilian.
Edited by lilianGM on 25 April 2007 at 10:36am
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nikzafri wrote:
As I have said earlier, the views voiced in a club would be very much official according to the law.
I'm neither implying that views voiced herein wouldn't get much attention nor forum members not registered as club members would be 'cast aside' (I think it's rather an option) but when we're registered, it would likely to be getting more attention.
Other than that - let's say for example, in emergency situations e.g. catastrophes etc, there is an official place (besides than the Embassy, UN shelters etc.) where news can be spread much more effectively via other media when access to the internet is not possible. I'm also very sure, it's not for GMN forumers/club members alone but for all Malaysians abroad and this club can act like support relief centres.
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Nik, personally, from the heart, I appreciate yr views & efforts in this.
But I daresay I voice the view of many a forumer, silent thus far, in saying this - we're not terribly interested in getting more attention, be it from the media or the govt.
Like flick, I apologise for being a wet blanket, I applaud Gavin's idea & effort, and your tireless support, but I reckon the continued silence from the other forumers to the proposal must be a deafening response ...
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flick068 Senior Member

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all these late nighters but no one in chat rooms...
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nikzafri Senior Member


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flick068 wrote:
this is probably going to make me sound like a wet blanket but what the heck....
why do we need a GMN Club? what would be the objectives of a club?
why can't we leave a good thing like the forum as is without morphing it into a club? how would the club differ from being a forum member?
doesn't a club make it sound so exclusive when the forum is open & inclusive?
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Nope flick, you do have a point there as well. I think even if the GMN Club is formed, the forum; being the heart of GMN; will stay.
There is a difference being a forum member online and being a club member offline & online.
As I have said earlier, the views voiced in a club would be very much official according to the law.
I'm neither implying that views voiced herein wouldn't get much attention nor forum members not registered as club members would be 'cast aside' (I think it's rather an option) but when we're registered, it would likely to be getting more attention.
Other than that - let's say for example, in emergency situations e.g. catastrophes etc, there is an official place (besides than the Embassy, UN shelters etc.) where news can be spread much more effectively via other media when access to the internet is not possible. I'm also very sure, it's not for GMN forumers/club members alone but for all Malaysians abroad and this club can act like support relief centres.
GMN clubs/charters may also function in promoting Malaysia for FDI, Business & tourism purposes.
I do not think that it's going to be an exclusive club - it would be a normal one intended to gather and foster stronger relationships with Malaysians worldwide. See below :
http://www.globalmalaysians.com/aboutus/objectives.asp
I know there are alumnis, the Embassy, media representatives etc, but it won't hurt to have another club complementing (not overlapping) other similar entities.
Alas my 2 sens worth of views here are not representing GMN in any way.
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